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Posted - 2007.06.14 23:16:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Explorer on 14/06/2007 23:14:43
 Originally by: Snake Jankins
Guess this one has already been said/answered somewhere, but:
Changes to user settings, capture and logs :
* In Windows XP & Windows 2000: User Settings :
C:\Documents and Settings\%user%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE
I assume that this is just mentioned as the standard case in the patch-notes and that EVE actually uses the path that is set in the system environment without any trouble.
The EVE client reads the CSIDL values from Windows so assuming you have redirected your folders in a standard manner then Windows will report that location correctly back.
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Posted - 2007.06.14 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
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Changes to user settings, capture and logs :
* In Windows XP & Windows 2000: User Settings :
C:\Documents and Settings\%user%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE
* Capture and logs:
C:\Documents and Settings\%user%\My Documents\EVE
* In Windows Vista : User settings :
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE
* Capture and logs:
C:\Users\%user%\Documents\EVE
First of all, stupid change. 2nd, WTF?! That is totaly unnecessary.
This modification is a necessary compatibility change for Windows 2000, XP and Vista, to better comply with Microsoft recommended best practises for data file locations (which are now enforced on Windows Vista).
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Posted - 2007.06.15 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Baron Steiger
Changes to user settings, capture and logs :
* In Windows XP & Windows 2000: User Settings :
C:\Documents and Settings\%user%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE
* Capture and logs:
C:\Documents and Settings\%user%\My Documents\EVE
* In Windows Vista : User settings :
C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE
* Capture and logs:
C:\Users\%user%\Documents\EVE
Has anything been done to ensure that data from the test server doesn't overwrite data from the real server?
If you are running multiple clients then please follow the advice in the patch notes and use the "/end /LUA:OFF" switches. Note that then you need to run the EVE client with administrative privileges. There is also interesting advice here on how to maintain a setup for multiple accounts and multiple servers.
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Posted - 2007.06.15 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Hellman109
Just a bit of a bugbear of mine...
"In Windows XP & Windows 2000:
User Settings :
C:\Documents and Settings\%user%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE
Capture and logs:
C:\Documents and Settings\%user%\My Documents\EVE"
These are wrong, purly because the user name does not always match the profile path of that user.
The patch notes use the default/normal values for demonstration purposes only. We actually use the appropriate CSIDL values that the EVE client reads from Windows.
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Posted - 2007.06.15 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Originally by: CCP Explorer
If you are running multiple clients then please follow the advice in the patch notes and use the "/end /LUA:OFF" switches. Note that then you need to run the EVE client with administrative privileges. There is also interesting advice here on how to maintain a setup for multiple accounts and multiple servers.
Personally I find these "work arounds" unacceptable. Specially since I can't use them as I use EVE Launcher. And no switching to EVEMon's window moving or similar is not an option as it does not support placing different copies of the client on different screens.
Please ask the author of EVE Launcher to enhance it. It should be a trivial change to add support for the "/end /LUA:OFF" switches in EVE Launcher.
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Posted - 2007.06.15 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Xeron Silverblade
for the changed paths: i have two clients running on the same machine. will this work with the new setting or are the two clients overwriting each others files? or is there/will there be an command line option to set a specific path? for example store setting for client 1 in c:\eve\1 and for client 2 in c:\eve\2 (not the game-dirs)... would be much easier to put that stuff on a ramdrive as well if would be able to do that
Please see replies 53, 59, 157, 160, 181, and this thread.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Creepin
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Game capture, log and cache folders have moved from "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE"
* The capture and logs folders are now located under "My Documents\EVE"
* The settings and cache folder are stored under
o Windows 2000/XP: "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE"
o Windows Vista: "C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE"
Arr, f**k it! I just hate that stupid game design when one single game installed in one single folder sprawls all over folder tree. Just what the f**k - game is there, saves here, settings someplace else... did noone see how stupid and disgusting it is? When I said to installer "Well OK, I want to have it at C:/Games/EVE", for example, it means that I want whole game, including each and every relevant file to be located in that damn C:/Games/EVE! Why did a program permits itself to deliberately occupy folders I didn't allowed it to?
What about just keeping stuff in C:/EVE/capture, C:/EVE/logs etc? Isn't it logical and obvious enough?
This modification is a necessary compatibility change for Windows 2000, XP and Vista, to better comply with Microsoft recommended best practises for data file locations.
Microsoft wants all writeable data to be stored in the Application Data folders on Windows and has begun enforcing that in Windows Vista. We want the EVE client to behave in the same manner on all Windows platforms so we made a uniform change.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Explorer on 18/06/2007 01:01:20
Originally by: Windle Poons
Oh, keep an eye out for a new CCP\EVE\history.txt file in the root of the volume you run it from!
That was a defect in one of the earlier test-builds, it's been fixed now. If you have a file C:\CCP\EVE\history.txt then please delete it as well as those folders.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Maj Woodcock
I have a main and a alt on this account. do I have to have a seperate folder for each chacater or just one per account?
You can add the "/end /LUA:OFF" switches to your shortcut(s) and then you don't have to change anything in your setup. The "cache" folder(s) will then stay in the program directory/ies but the "capture" folder(s) will move to MyDocs. Alternatively you can read this thread for some interesting setup for multiple accounts / multiple servers.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Windle Poons
I want to keep all my chat logs etc seperate to each character/account and don't want them all mixed up.
This thread might provide the setup you need for multiple accounts / multiple servers.
Originally by: Windle Poons
Oh, and you shouldn't move people files without asking. I'd also suggest that my docs is a crappy place for logs seeing as it is often redirected to a network share. Local settings is also a crappy place for the cache as its not copied with roaming profiles.
Thanks for the comments.
We have to move the files to maintain compatibility with Windows Vista, there isn't much choice. Sorry.
We think MyDocs is an ideal place for those logs since that's the place users would store pictures and screenshots anyway and storing chatlogs and marketlogs there as well seems quite natural. This is not going to generate heavy network traffic. We are using "Local Settings\Application Data" exactly because that's where non-roaming data should be stored.
Thanks to all of you for all the feedback during the development of Revelations II. We start the deployment in 15 hours. We hope you enjoy it!
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Posted - 2007.06.18 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco
Only question I have is, will I still be able to run multiple accounts off one installation of Eve without changing anything?
You will be able to run multiple accounts without any modifications, since the client automatically handles multiple accounts and multiple characters. If you look in the folder "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\cache\Settings" you will see the current settings files.
The only conflict players might have is when running multiple different clients against multiple servers, i.e., one client against Tranquility, another client against Singularity and the third client against Multiplicity (all different client versions). That's when you need to use the "/end /LUA:OFF" switches, or perhaps examine the advice in this thread, to prevent the different clients from conflicting with each other.
We start deployment in 7 hours. Enjoy!
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